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Amanda Hill's avatar

This podcast episode came at exactly the right time for me, I wouldn’t say it gave me any solace- but the emotional reinforcement it gave my moral compass was appreciated.

I’m so worried for the freedom of Australians at this point in history. We are looking at the US, pointing fingers and asking how they could be so stupid to reelect trump while also being so disturbingly apathetic about our own government, political landscape and the rise of authoritarianism here.

Social media, lies, contradictory “truths” and bullshit spread by the media with the intention of confusing, and overwhelming an already over-worked, over-stimulated and emotionally tapped out population has produced a level of apathy here that means political dissent doesn’t exist beyond having a whinge in the comment section of a news.com.au social media post.

People who dare try to protest are ridiculed by the people around them, often arrested, and their voice and cause suppressed.

A combination of tall poppy syndrome and a weird cultural hatred of protesters (because they’re “annoying” and “inconvenient” ) means we have become frogs slowly boiling in a proverbial pot of control. Even the free thinkers who raised my generation seem to have lost the will to fight it (maybe because they’ve benefited from the system greatly for the last 30 years), or have forgotten the importance of rebellion and the community voice in maintaining freedom and balance in a democracy.

I’m horrified watching the government covertly erode freedoms hidden behind issues that are truely harms to society that do need addressing. Perhaps not addressing with more laws, but need addressing none the less.

When I try to talk to people about this it either falls on deaf ears and “yeah it sucks but what can we do” - or immediately I’m pinned as “she must be a sov cit cooker”.

I understand this is collapse. I understand that we are in it, it’s happening right now, and this shitfuckery I’m describing is just another sign of it. But god damn it am I terrified that the people around me are paying more attention to feeling morally superior to the flashy shit show in the US, than the literal sewer they are standing in here not realising that world leaders learn from each others playbooks. By the time they look down, it is going to be too late and the zone will be flooded with shit here too.

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Madeleine Urion's avatar

This has been the most confronting chapter to me so far. I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but her prophetic sense around reaching for outer space and in increasing technological reliance from an experience of distress in one's own self is profound. It makes the truth around going inward to make peace with our limits, shadows, etc, to forgive ourselves for what we have been complicit in and what we cannot influence even more necessary.

I find myself going inside and trying to practice a kind of self forgiveness when I think about the moral injury that systems of modernity in which we are complicit are inflicting on us now and on future generations. It occurs to me that some Indigenous cultures that I am familiar with have practices for this kind of prayer or "being with" one's self while also seeking the presence, or the energy, of creation.

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