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Of course there are plenty of good men around. And they do call out the BS but their voice is sometimes not heard because the media would much prefer an Andrew Tate arguing with a Germaine Greer.

Man agrees with woman isn't what some divisive interests want to see as a headline.

Any decent man who appreciates all that women have endured over centuries should listen more than they speak when they get those moments of honesty and good debate from a female.

Ant time my opinions on anything has been shifted it has always been due to a discussion with a female friend, not a male friend.

And whether you believe in quota's in politics or not, it is why parliment has to be a split of the sexes.

Agree Scomo is in a class of his own.

My message to all the men you mention is simple.

Get over yourselves.

Look in the mirror and repeat;

"Make 2023 NOT about me".

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Agree 100% Sarah.

Being lucky enough to have a daughter has really emphasised it for myself, so if a male friend is on the Tate rant and i know they have an older daughter i always ask them if she brought home a man with those thoughts and talked to your daughter that way, would you be ok with that?

To have her opinion disrespected?

It usually makes them pause.

But you don't need a daughter to do this, just any number of female friends, colleges, mothers, aunties or nieces etc.

Interestingly most men i know that have that Tate-trait(trademark pending😁) have aweful relationships with their mothers or the same masculine type father. Always talk AT their partners.

I love strong women and i hope with the purpose driven anger now at hand, over the next few generations kids see all the strong women and or mothers that don't cop it, and young boys realise that it's so much more important to find a partner whose thoughts and opinions (even if not agreed upon) you value and cherish, than it is to have a Kardashian on your arm to impress other like minded males.😁

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